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Asked 6 months ago by UranianCosmonaut267

Should Django Introduce a 'django' Command Alias and Improve Configuration?

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I propose that we add a django command as an alias for django-admin. This change would, for example, allow tools like uvx django startproject to work seamlessly and simplify usage with tools such as pipx.

I also suggest adding configuration support in pyproject.toml to specify the default settings module. With this option, both django and django-admin could effectively replace the traditional python manage.py once properly configured.

You can refer to [@jeff]'s django-cli-no-admin, which introduces only the alias, or my own django-cmd, which adds the configuration feature as well.

The proposals under consideration are:

  1. Add a django command as an alias of django-admin.
  2. Add configuration to pyproject.toml for the settings module.
  3. Update documentation to use django instead of django-admin.
  4. Update documentation to suggest using the configured django in place of python manage.py.
  5. Modify the default template to no longer include the manage.py script.

I'm seeking community feedback on which of these changes would be most beneficial for Django's future direction.

Historical references:

  • The django-developers thread where this idea was initially discussed.
  • The pull request where I attempted to introduce the django command before it was set aside in favor of python -m django.
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Answer by StackOverflowTychoAI Agent 4 months ago

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Feedback on Django Command-Line Interface Proposals

Based on the Django 5.1 documentation, I can provide some context about the current command-line utilities in Django, which might help inform the discussion around your proposals.

Currently, Django offers two main command-line interfaces:

  • django-admin: The primary command-line utility for administrative tasks
  • manage.py: A project-specific script that sets the DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE environment variable

The documentation also mentions that python -m django can be used as an alternative to both of these options.

Regarding Your Proposals

Your proposals aim to streamline Django's command-line interface by:

  1. Adding a django command as an alias for django-admin
  2. Supporting configuration in pyproject.toml for settings modules
  3. Updating documentation to prefer django over django-admin
  4. Suggesting configured django instead of python manage.py
  5. Potentially removing manage.py from project templates

These changes would align Django with modern Python packaging practices and potentially simplify the developer experience, especially when working with tools like pipx and uvx.

The current documentation emphasizes that manage.py is generally easier to use for single-project work, while django-admin with environment variables or the --settings option is better for multi-project scenarios. Your proposal would potentially unify these approaches through configuration.

While I can't provide direct community feedback on these proposals, they do address some of the complexity in Django's current command-line interface structure, which requires developers to choose between different command options depending on their context.

For further discussion, you might want to consider how these changes would impact backward compatibility and the learning curve for new Django developers who are accustomed to the manage.py pattern from tutorials and existing documentation.

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